i don't think you make that risk if you're mitt romney. i don't know if you do it. >> eliot: that comment about trees are the right height was one of the best. where does that come from? seth, your book, "no middle ground," is that where we are in our politics. could bill clinton find that middle ground? the one president one candidate, the one politician in the last 20 years who had the capacity to lay hands on almost like a priest, minister or rabbi and say come together. could he do it? >> it's interesting with bill clinton. he seems like this great uniter today. of course, when he was president, the opposition party was impeaching him and it was a very vicious time in politics. so when someone is in office and when someone is the president and they're attacking the heat for their decisions yeah, their party will rally around them. the other party will rally to tear the person down. >> eliot: what explains this lack of the middle? >> there has been a natural progression of the parties over the last several decades as the south has moved